Comments on: The Admins Backbone Bandwidth Upgrade Goes Hay-wire and a Weekly Roundup!

By: Jeffrey Meltzer

Jeffrey Meltzer — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:27:49 +0000

If anyone has any questions about Long Island Fiber, just let me know. Pricing is not fixed like some carriers, it depends where you are in relation to the network. jmeltzer@

majortom1981 shoot me an email, curious who you are with?

Jeffrey Meltzer
Director of Network Operations
Long Island Fiber

By: The Slothman

The Slothman — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:29:00 +0000

Currently we get our IPs from the ISP. The ISP owns them and leases them to us. I didn’t negotiate this…it predates me, because I never would have allowed this.

But again, we talked to Lightpath about 4-5 years ago about this. And we weren’t really serious so we didn’t go any further than talking to the sales weenie.

By: Karl L. Gechlik

Karl L. Gechlik — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:25:00 +0000

Sloth - IP's dont come from the ISP they come from the ICANN! If you can prove what you want them for (simple chart) then you can have them anything up to a /26 is free anything over costs money.

What are they telling you?

And these prices have only come crashing down in NYC because of the companies going out of business and the stiff competition!

By: The Slothman

The Slothman — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:21:00 +0000

We've talked to Lightpath before and they are cheaper but we don't get the IPs that we need.

Back then when we talked to them I think they would only give us like 2-3 IPs to work with which simply would not suffice.

They have a large presence of fiber in our building and could be connected within a few days for sure, but it is not an avenue that we have chose to explore at this time.

By: majortom1981

majortom1981 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:18:00 +0000

Wow NYC is sooooooo much cheaper then long island. I guess its because of the distances involved.

By: Karl L. Gechlik

Karl L. Gechlik — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:07:00 +0000

Yes everything better than a T1 we have coming in on fiber to a media converter and then to an ethernet handoff that can be plugged into a firewall, router or vpn endpoint.

We are also in NYC off Broadway and Wall Street so their is fiber under every block over here!

By: majortom1981

majortom1981 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:02:00 +0000

Karl the two conenctions from rcn and time warner were those fiber lines?

By: Karl L. Gechlik

Karl L. Gechlik — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:43:00 +0000

We have a 10mb ethernet handoff that was our back bone prior to the 100mb from RCN. We are paying 1250/month from last year and before that our 10mb was 1400/month from Time Warner.

Competition is good but dont get yanked into a 6 year contract!!

By: majortom1981

majortom1981 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:38:00 +0000

Slothman i am awaiting a quote from cogent thanks to karl but I read on their website that they are very picky and might refuse to even provide service.

Slothman if cogent doesnt want to provide you with service, since your on li just like me, try long island fiber or Optimum Lightpath.

Try cogent first but if they say no try those other too.

Lightpath is $2750 a month for a 10/10 conenction with 50k voice minutes (if you want to use them for your phone service)

Long island fiber quoted us at $3000 for a 10/10 connection.

So if cogent says no look into those :)

By: The Slothman

The Slothman — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:44:00 +0000

Crap...I wish I knew of Cogent's pricing a few months ago. We're maxed out on budget this year so it is a no go, unless I can save some serious coin and reallocate it.

It would really help us as we're doing a lot of file transfers these days of large files and to be able to push and pull at those speeds would be huge. It would make us a lot more productive as an organization.

Thanks Karl.

By: Karl L. Gechlik

Karl L. Gechlik — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:03:00 +0000

From the amount of referrals I should be getting commish from Cognet! We have a full c class subnet as well Sloth. Those costs come from the icann not the isp.

I can say this though this 100mb is a LONG way from a T1 – it makes it seem like dial up!

By: The Slothman

The Slothman — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:31:00 +0000

And to think my ISP was looking to get us to add an additional T to our account doubling our bandwidth and it would have cost us more than what you got which would be 100x what we get in bandwidth.

I may have to look into Cogent and propose it. Shoot for half what you got we would probably pay the same amount…only headache is the fact that we lease a full class C.

By: majortom1981

majortom1981 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:11:00 +0000

Sorry , I posted as anon. Anyway thanks for the reply. I am a network admin at the Huntington Public Library on LI and we have been looking for a better isp . Thanks for your reply . :)

By: Karl L. Gechlik

Karl L. Gechlik — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:55:00 +0000

@Annon – I wasnt going to say unless I was asked! But it is Cogent – they bought up LOADS of smaller ISP’s with fiber and they are slowly taking over – anyone else notice this?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:31:00 +0000

Who is your isp? HEre on Long island the cheapest one is Lightpath and they are like $4000 a month for metro ethernet at 100.

By: Alfred

Alfred — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:30:00 +0000

Hmm im from India... I've read somewhere that u were from NY..

Now I used to work for AOL, Covad, SBC, Verizon, Sprint and AT&T before I finally stopped working as a DSL tech support. Honestly the attrition is so bad for tech support that 30% of the employees leave. Thats why you are more likely to get a new tech agent who is trying to help you out, but dosnt knw crap about the process !

Always ask for a supervisor if you get even the slightest feeling they dont knw wht they are talking about.